You're missing the point. It's not just the tool or the product, it's the PRODUCT CYCLE.

Take an American built car. The steel comes from here. The tooling used to make it comes from here. It is engineered here. The tires are made here. The company supplying the interior (Lear or Prince) is here. The paint is made here (PPG in many cases), the glass is made here (AP Techno glass or PPG). The various vendors that supply the parts to make it happen are here.

Companies that provide subsequent service parts (likely the same vendors that made the original parts) are here. The electric company keeps that plant running, as opposed to it being closed and that production being overseas.

For ever car built, there are probably 10 to 20 jobs/related industries to that vehicle. If this is done in a foreign country, guess where the related industries go?

Rick:

If you don't have a choice that's one thing. In this case you do. Compressors are made here. IR, DeVilbiss (who supplies most of the Craftsman ones) are made here. Campbell Hausfeld---made here. Coleman--made here. There are choices!

Fred (again ):

The practices are NOT the same. I think you'd agree that most workers in this country enjoy a good life and are among the most affluent in the world. Do you think these other countries have the same labor laws, rights, thinking, theories as we do? Whether it's forced on companies or not, if you're going to blow the whistle, this is the country to express yourself and do it---for one the media will make a mock of the company. For another, the person will sue and win---that company will think twice before doing that again!

I'm with Cheese. I do look at what I buy. I just got back from Sears...bought a 13 piece wrench set---made here. I turned away a set of Craftsman pliers because the back said made in China. I usually shy away from imported stuff like that, because as Cheese said, the quality isn't there. It's readily apparent. Sears sells Chinese knockoffs to their tools called Companion...yet they do not warranty them! They DO warrranty the Craftsman of which close to 90% (I read this somewhere) are made in the USA.

Rick (again ):

You've fallen into the trap. The PROFITS go back to Japan and stay there. The only reason that Honda built plants here is because their volume is here and they got a 50 year tax break from the state of Ohio to build the Marysville plant. The profits go to Japan and stay there. The engineers that approve the Honda are Japanese. The suppliers they choose are mostly companies that have followed them here from Japan. Their headquarters are in Japan, and the think tanks are there, not here. The head Honcho of Honda lives in Japan, not the US. He's calling the shots to the US operations in Torrance.

I like MTD's logo/motto on their products: American Designed, American Engineered, American Built. The way to be.

Is there improvement needed in our products? Sure there is. But shame on us for not looking when we buy. I always do.

Fred:You're missing the point. It's not just the tool or the product, it's the PRODUCT CYCLE.Take an American built car. The steel comes from here. The tooling used to make it comes from here. It is engineered here. The tires are made here. The company supplying the interior (Lear or Prince) is here. The paint is made here (PPG in many cases), the glass is made here (AP Techno glass or PPG). The various vendors that supply the parts to make it happen are here.Companies that provide subsequent service parts (likely the same vendors that made the original parts) are here. The electric company keeps that plant running, as opposed to it being closed and that production being overseas.For ever car built, there are probably 10 to 20 jobs/related industries to that vehicle. If this is done in a foreign country, guess where the related industries go?Rick:If you don't have a choice that's one thing. In this case you do. Compressors are made here. IR, DeVilbiss (who supplies most of the Craftsman ones) are made here. Campbell Hausfeld---made here. Coleman--made here. There are choices!Fred (again):The practices are NOT the same. I think you'd agree that most workers in this country enjoy a good life and are among the most affluent in the world. Do you think these other countries have the same labor laws, rights, thinking, theories as we do? Whether it's forced on companies or not, if you're going to blow the whistle, this is the country to express yourself and do it---for one the media will make a mock of the company. For another, the person will sue and win---that company will think twice before doing that again!I'm with Cheese. I do look at what I buy. I just got back from Sears...bought a 13 piece wrench set---made here. I turned away a set of Craftsman pliers because the back said made in China. I usually shy away from imported stuff like that, because as Cheese said, the quality isn't there. It's readily apparent. Sears sells Chinese knockoffs to their tools called Companion...yet they do not warranty them! They DO warrranty the Craftsman of which close to 90% (I read this somewhere) are made in the USA.Rick (again):You've fallen into the trap. The PROFITS go back to Japan and stay there. The only reason that Honda built plants here is because their volume is here and they got a 50 year tax break from the state of Ohio to build the Marysville plant. The profits go to Japan and stay there. The engineers that approve the Honda are Japanese. The suppliers they choose are mostly companies that have followed them here from Japan. Their headquarters are in Japan, and the think tanks are there, not here. The head Honcho of Honda lives in Japan, not the US. He's calling the shots to the US operations in Torrance.I like MTD's logo/motto on their products: American Designed, American Engineered, American Built. The way to be.Is there improvement needed in our products? Sure there is. But shame on us for not looking when we buy. I always do.

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